New MAngband variant

[Rali]

So are you basically rewriting PernMAngband 3.x or what? And where do I get the client?

[PowerWyrm]

I re-coded some of the old features from PernMAngband 3.x... the ones that were cool + I added more stuff to make the game more interesting.
Today I modified the PKT_VERIFY stuff, so from now on the 0.7 client won't work on my server anymore. I will post here as soon as I have all the client related stuff done, so that I can release a client for my server.
On a side note, I removed the MAGE_HITPOINT_BONUS option and replaced it with new HP dices for the classes:
- warrior: 10
- mage: 1
- priest: 2
- rogue: 6
- ranger: 5
- paladin: 7
- sorceror: 0
- unbeliever: 9
- archer: 4
- monk: 8
- telepath: 3

[Berendol]

Have you seen the new preview release of Angband 3.0.8? Either one of the new menu and birth systems are worth the whole download. I'm wondering how feasible it would be to port those new systems to MAngband?

Here's the link to the changelog which contains the download link.

[PowerWyrm]

Interesting... would be a bit of work to port to Mang though.
On a side note, I've added the tool slot to the equipment list tonight. And a more explicit message when someone tries to connect with the basic client.

[PowerWyrm]

That's it... the quiver slot has been implemented too. And that means...
... see next post.

[Fink]

- upgraded artifacts from vanilla 3.0.6
- upgraded ego items from vanilla 3.0.6
- upgraded base items from vanilla 3.0.6

PW, how did this go? Did it entail anything out of the ordinary on your part, or did you have to add in any new stuff to support the new art/ego/base-items?

[Billsey]

Actually, wasn't that what Jug did? Though he didn't implement two of the new monster attacks, IIRC.

[Rali]

How about some sort of (mana limit | cooldown | fail rate) for monster (spells | breath attacks | summons) ? Or is something like that in the 3.x system?

[Fink]

Re: new vanilla content


He did start, but I think he ran into some extra work that would have to be done to support now items. We don't see any of that stuff yet, so I'm pretty sure he just did monsters/uniques.

[Berendol]

Check the relevant BMAngband sources. I did a lot of the work for you already, regarding items and such. Lots of things like resistances, etc. are complete.

However my variant didn't completely get the items done. The biggest obstacle to full 3.0.x items is ripping out the existing, outdated object generation code and replacing it with the current code; that is the one hurdle I didn't jump. I imagine any of the big variant maintainers with a predictable few hours a day could do that in a week or so.

[edit] I agree with the monster mana 100% and its implementation has been stewing on my back burner for a couple years. I really, really wanted to go there with BMAngband but my free time and network resources dried up.

[Fink]

Hey PW, could list out a brief overview of your variant? That is, a general look at whats in it, new ways of doing things, and any commands unique to it?

[PowerWyrm]

- New races:
 * yeek: very weak but fast learner
 * goblin: high dexterity for stealthy classes
 * ent: very strong, selective ESP depending on character level, very slow learner
 * thunderlord: good stats, limited full ESP (radius depending on character level), extremely slow learner
- New classes:
 * sorceror: a pure spellcaster (1 bpr max, lowest hp of all classes, more mana to cast offensive spells)
 * unbeliever: a pure anti-spellcaster (protected by an antimagic shield to prevent monsters from casting... but also preventing the character from using magic)
 * archer: the master of missiles (new spells/spellbooks for powerful branded missiles and support spells)
 * monk: a martial artist (cannot use weapons, but get more powerful techniques as they level up)
 * telepath: the master of the mind (most original class with unique spells to compensate their mediocre fighting abilities
- New stat roller: stats are rerolled until primary stat = 17, secondary stat >= 16 and third stat >= 15
- Random artifacts
- List of uniques per player
- Improved stores (more good items, 4 pages of items)
- Selective ESP (orc, troll, animal, giant, demon, undead, dragon, evil)
- New objects: magic ammo (no need to recharge quivers with those, but low damage and no enchants/egos/arts), dark swords (provide antimagic field that will prevent monsters from casting), rocks (missiles that can be used without a missile launcher, mainly used by monks)
- New runtime options for randarts generation, art hoarding, ironman server
- All items in shops fully identified
- Keyless houses
- A couple different spells for mages and priests
- Totally new spells/books for rogues
- Sauron has become a mandatory quest before killing Morgoth
- Winners cannot use/pick up artifacts anymore
- New command: (I) to examine items in inventory and (x) to examine items in shops
- New command (related to telepath/sorceror "Mind Vision" spell): (x) to end the mind link with another character
- New command: (') to examine items worn by party members
- More messages in the term 4 window (monsters killed, players attaining a new level...)

[Emulord]

are monks in PWMangband like Z monks?
1v1 = you winning because the enemy is in stunlock until high levels when too much can summon and uniques can't be stunned by monk attacks?

[PowerWyrm]

Never played Z...
No, monks are just martial artists with the number of bpr and dam dice increasing with clvl.